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077 Disasters, Navy Walruses and Dual Citizenship!

077 Disasters, Navy Walruses and Dual Citizenship!

January 26, 2021

What does a follower of Jesus, in business, do when the going gets really difficult? Do you shrink back and look for option 'b'? Do you dig deep and declare "I was BORN FOR THIS?"

In this episode (recorded while my family and I were displaced as a result of a wildfire) I talk through what I learned from observing others and what I was personally convicted over.

1. Disaster and difficulty are a gift to cut through all the double-mindedness and force us to choose what we will do. Stay or leave? Invest or escape? Show up or hide out? No more luke-warmness. 

2. There is always an option. Our friend was in the city when a second wildfire started leaving his family trapped behind the road block without a vehicle. What could he do?

What would you do? We tried contacting first responders I knew, but that didn't help. We tried looking at alternative roads, but that didn't help. Then we took another look at the map...

3. As a follower of Jesus, you are a citizen of Heaven. You are not of this world! BUT that doesn't mean your earthly citizenship is irrelevant. It is the opposite - Your earthly citizenship got UPGRADED BECAUSE of your citizenship in Heaven. You are a dual citizen. AND the citizenship of Heaven gives you access to resources that are desperately needed here on earth.

So how well are you living as a citizen? How well are you representing the Kingdom of God in your business or city or family? 

What will you do about that?

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076 My Winning Formula

076 My Winning Formula

January 19, 2021

Reflecting this week in the midst of national and global uncertainty. Ive walked through lots of situations that didn't look good. Actually, when your 16 year old daughter is writhing on the floor in pain and silently screaming, it IS TERRIBLE. But through all of the ups and downs and uncertainty and pain... we have ALWAYS come out stronger. Not just some token, emotional benefit, but stronger physically, financially, emotionally, spiritually. HOW? Good question. Here's some stories of what happened, what we did and how through it all, He has strengthened our soul....

1. Childs health disaster. Two years. Hospitals in Redding, Sacramento and a two month family separation in New Zealand. Out of it He has strengthened our soul. Check out Hannah's poetry on Amazon: Imagine This - From Pain to Possibility

2. House delay and disappointment. Years! Then when we found the house our funding disappeared. Yet through it all He has strengthened my soul.

3. Wildfire disaster. Six weeks after moving into the home a wildfire devastated over 200,000 acres including 270 degrees around our house. (It destroyed houses around us). Thanks to fire crews our house was saved but the landscaping and smoke damage was heart breaking. But through it all He has strengthened my soul! 

In all of this God has been faithful to redeem, restore, replenish, renew. We are living in a dream home (with a dream fridge!) and a financial situation that has gone from impossible to possible. My daughter's health remains a challenge but she is stronger relationally, emotionally, mentally and spiritually to the point of pursuing leadership roles in youth work. 

Through it all He has strengthened my soul. It's not a secret. It's not easy. It is an invitation. What will you choose to do? You can focus on the loss, the pain, the difficulty... OR you can lean into Him, spill out your heart and frustration and find a strength that you never knew possible. 

Read Psalm 13 - see TPT version below.

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Prayer Turns Depression into Delight[a]

13 For the Pure and Shining One, by King David
I’m hurting, Lord—will you forget me forever?[b]
How much longer, Lord?
Will you look the other way when I’m in need?[c]
How much longer must I cling to this constant grief?
I’ve endured this shaking of my soul.
So how much longer will my enemy have the upper hand?
It’s been long enough!
Take a good look at me, God, and answer me!
Breathe your life into my spirit.
Bring light to my eyes in this pitch-black darkness
or I will sleep the sleep of death.
Don’t let my enemy proclaim, “I’ve prevailed over him.”
For all my adversaries will celebrate when I fall.
Lord, I have always trusted in your kindness, so answer me.
I will yet celebrate with passion and joy
when your salvation[d] lifts me up.
I will sing my song of joy to you, the Most High,
for in all of this you have strengthened my soul.
My enemies say that I have no Savior,
but I know that I have one in you!


075 What I Learned & What I’m Doing

075 What I Learned & What I’m Doing

January 12, 2021

Here's what I learned through last years influence on my life and what I am hearing and focussed on for this year. Spoiler alert - it's all ridiculously good although the process wasn't comfortable. Bottom line is, I am SUPER GRATEFUL for the pain of last year that has pruned, refined and refocused my life to what I believe is setting me up to succeed for decades to come. In business. In family. In faith. I trust this helps you also.


A) My most significant learning from 2020:

At the start of the year I heard God say it would be the year of 'multiplication.' What unfolded was certainly not what I expected. However, as I reflect on the outcomes, I have multiplied in character, my walk with God, my awareness of family, my influence, my business... OR I have been positioned to multiply. 

What did I learn in the process?

1. Grow according to your vision, not according to your people

2. Follow the Voice of Jesus for everything - Matthew 4:4

3. Seek humility more than wisdom

4. Get professional help now 

5. Protect/create intentional connection - take the initiative

6. Value/be kind to yourself

7. Find and protect doing what restores your soul

8. Most of the things in your life are just things


B) My focus for 2021:

For this year I have two primary themes. 1. Kingdom over everything and 2. Leadership. I will unpack these and talk about what I'm practically doing in each.

1. Seek first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness and all things will be provided for

This is the scripture in Matthew 6:33 and I believe this will actually be my focus for the rest of my life! What became apparent in 2020 was how we have been seeking many different kingdoms first. The kingdom of America and it's ideals.... the kingdom of church.... the kingdom of my message, my business, my rights, my..... 

The second aspect of this is not simply seeking first the Kingdom of God but ALSO seeking it HIS WAY (His righteousness). It is possible to seek the values of the Kingdom of God according to your own righteousness - your own way.

"If the devil can't succeed at changing your values, he will entice you to overplay your values so that you get out of the spirit of Christ." In other words, you may have a Kingdom value of the sanctity of all life including the unborn child. This value overplayed could look like abusing pro abortionists or in extreme, violence enacted against an abortion clinic.

2. LEAD. 

Don't shrink back, hold back or draw back. Let your voice be heard. Silence is assent. Silence is avoidance. Silence is not an option. 

So practically how am I partnering with these themes this year?

1. Reading/listening to resources on the Kingdom and especially it's application to the workplace. Myles Munroe. E. Stanley Jones. Bill Johnson. Patrice Tsague. Shae Bynes...

2. Heaven in Business events around the above subjects - see as registration opens

a) Transformational Leadership online workshop with Ford Taylor March 25-26

b) Leadership Summit conference in person May 26-28

c) Kingdom. Business. Conference in person, September 8-10


074 Do I Make A Plan or Trust God?

074 Do I Make A Plan or Trust God?

January 5, 2021

How do we navigate decision making and strategic planning when so much is still uncertain? What about when you make a plan then GOD changes it? Is there ANY point planning in the midst of uncertainty?

This episode opens up my journey from being addicted to vision and planning and having God disrupt my plans completely!!!

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073 Practical Tools to Experience God

073 Practical Tools to Experience God

December 28, 2020

You are a leader and what overshadows you will overshadow all those you influence. So what if you were literally overshadowed by the Presence of God? That is the promise of Psalm 91. In this session you will get to experience five practical tools that grow your awareness of the Presence of God with you. Tangible. Real. Powerful. 


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072 What We Learned from 2020

072 What We Learned from 2020

December 21, 2020

This session is an interview of four leading business people whom I ask the questions:

1. What are you most grateful for in 2020?

2. What is your most significant learning?

3. How are you positioning for the coming year?

You will hear from an executive of a defense contracting company in Washington DC, an owner of a plumbing/AC/HVAC company in Indianapolis, a cross fit gym owner in San Francisco and a marketing consultant from Redding! 

You are also invited to join me on the 30 Day Hope Challenge January 2021 where we will set you up with foundations that give clarity and confidence for the coming year. Find out more

Thanks for listening and Merry Christmas!

071 How to Lead with Hope in Crazy Times

071 How to Lead with Hope in Crazy Times

December 15, 2020

What you believe determines how you lead. If you view the future with a  negative outlook you will lead defensively. If you view the future with hope, you will proactively engage and seek out solutions to the challenges surrounding you. 

So how do you lead with hope? What do you do if you feel overwhelmed with the craziness and depressed from what you read and watch? 

This episode I take you behind the scenes and show you what works for me. Even better, I put it into a book - in devotional form - so you can apply this to your own life. 

This episode reveals how I wrote the book, the behind-the-scenes of three chapters and the simple process you can apply that gives you hope in crazy times! So LEAD!!!

Grab your free copy of Finding Hope in Crazy Times available in multiple formats on Amazon. Free audiobook included.

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070 Making MORE Sense of Pain and Mess

070 Making MORE Sense of Pain and Mess

December 8, 2020

Here's what I have learned this year through pain, loss and mess. You will gain insight into my life and apply a simple and practical process to take your pain and convert it into something valuable. 

This session was recorded in video format with presentation notes that you can access for free as part of the Heaven in Business membership trial. Membership also gives you weekly 2min motivation, focussed content, strategic prayer and a library of content that will hep you grow in identity, grow in business and grow in influence. Find out more

069 Making Sense of Pain and Mess

069 Making Sense of Pain and Mess

December 1, 2020

How do you make sense of all the pain and mess this year? This podcast is also part of the Heaven in Business membership platform where you can access the video, notes and more free for seven days. See

068 Who is right? Whose side is God on?

068 Who is right? Whose side is God on?

November 23, 2020

How do you navigate so many different opinions? Politics. Pandemic. Racial (in)equality...? In this episode I unpack what I am learning...

First, let's get your self-awareness going by answering a few questions. This is designed to get you to become aware of what you believe to be true. Be candid with yourself and say out loud the first response that comes to mind:

  • Was God on the side of the Israelites or the Canaanites when they entered the Promised land?
  • Was God on the side of the Jews or the Romans in Jesus day?
  • Was God on the side of the Germans or the Allies during WWII?
  • Was God on the side of the Democrats or the Republicans last election... or this election?
  • Is God on your side or your 'evil' competitors side in business or life?

Correct answer...Neither.


Don't freak out yet... read on.

The Kingdom of God is above all.

He is God. His Kingdom is not of this world. He has no rival or equal. He doesn't vote. The real question is WHOSE SIDE ARE YOU ON? Whose character and nature and ways are you representing? Keep the main thing the main thing... and still pray, vote and play to win!

Check out the story in Joshua 5 where the Israelites are rolling up to conquer their promised land. Their commander, Joshua, is scoping out the first enemy city - Jericho - and happens across a warrior he doesn't recognize.

"WHOSE SIDE ARE YOU ON?!" challenges Joshua to the unknown warrior. The context for this question is that God had sent the Israelites. God had told them to wipe out Jericho. God had provided. God had said He would go with them...

So, surely God is on their side and this warrior was on their side or the enemy???

The warrior responded, "NEITHER ONE. I am the commander of the Lord's army."

Joshua immediately fell on his face and said "I am at your command, what do you want your servant to do?" Joshua 5:14 NLT

What's the point? 

1. God doesn't take our side, we take His.

2. You remain on His side as long as you are following His ways, fighting His battles, obeying His commands.

3. If you get proud or arrogant in the process, you will find out that, whatever 'side' you are on, you will have God resisting or opposing you (see James 4:6 and more!). Pride is what turned Lucifer from arch angel to chief of demons. Remember that!

3. Rather than telling everyone God is on your side so they best shutup, you are wiser to get on your face and say to the Lord, "I am at Your command, what do you want me to do?"

4. Then do that!

To be clear, take a stand for what is right and just and true. Don't hold back or hide or pretend that everything will be fine if you stay neutral. Faith engages. Faith is messy. Faith speaks and acts. 

Just act on God's command and not your cause.


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